The Podcast

Paging Financial Freedom

The podcast for physicians and high-earning professionals who want their time back. No fluff, no guru talk - just practical conversations on how deals are evaluated, how risk is managed, how tax strategy fits in, and the mindset shifts that turn a high income into true autonomy.

Recent episodes

Every episode, with full show notes - click a title to read more.

Psychiatrist Dr. Elaine Stageberg walks through how she and her husband built Black Swan Real Estate from single-family rentals into a $500M, 2,300-unit portfolio - and why she eventually left clinical practice to run it full time. Daniel and Lila dig into how her psychiatry training shaped the way she works with investors, how she and her husband divided roles without competing over the same responsibilities, and what she's teaching their six kids about money and legacy.

Orthopedic surgeon and longtime investor Dr. Tom Burns explains why a high income alone rarely builds real wealth for physicians. He shares how he started investing during residency, what multiple market crashes taught him about risk, and why getting a spouse genuinely on board matters more than any single deal.

Child and adult psychiatrist Dr. Marissa Caudill talks about leaving a full-time role at Kaiser Permanente and building income outside the exam room through real estate and SuperDocTech, the company she founded to help physicians scale their expertise beyond one-on-one clinical work. The conversation covers burnout, financial diversification, and what it actually looks like to step away from W-2 medicine.

Paul Peebles has financed apartment deals through three major market cycles and structured more than $9 billion in transactions - enough to earn him the nickname "Godfather of Multifamily Lending." He breaks down why today's environment may be a buying opportunity, how to evaluate a syndication before investing, and the warning signs of a market bubble.

Teddy Mohlman went from culinary school and single-family flips to running a roughly 700-unit multifamily portfolio in Denver as founder of Higher Ground Investment Group. He and the hosts walk through what separates transactional income from real wealth-building, how to vet a market as landlord-friendly, and where tax strategies like cost segregation actually pay off.

Hosted by

The investor/operator perspective, paired with the household-CFO lens that makes the plan work at home.

Daniel Shin, MD

Dr. Daniel Shin

Board-certified surgeon · Founder, Cereus Real Estate

Brings the investor and operator perspective - how deals are sourced, underwritten, and reviewed before they reach an investor list.

Lila Kaplan

Lila Kaplan

Former Wall Street professional · Certified Financial Planner

Brings the "family CFO" lens - how a passive-income plan actually has to work inside a real household budget.

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