The Podcast
Paging Financial Freedom
The podcast for physicians and high-earning professionals who want their time back. No fluff, no guru talk - just practical conversations on how deals are evaluated, how risk is managed, how tax strategy fits in, and the mindset shifts that turn a high income into true autonomy.
Recent episodes
Every episode, with full show notes - click a title to read more.
Psychiatrist Dr. Elaine Stageberg walks through how she and her husband built Black Swan Real Estate from single-family rentals into a $500M, 2,300-unit portfolio - and why she eventually left clinical practice to run it full time. Daniel and Lila dig into how her psychiatry training shaped the way she works with investors, how she and her husband divided roles without competing over the same responsibilities, and what she's teaching their six kids about money and legacy.
Orthopedic surgeon and longtime investor Dr. Tom Burns explains why a high income alone rarely builds real wealth for physicians. He shares how he started investing during residency, what multiple market crashes taught him about risk, and why getting a spouse genuinely on board matters more than any single deal.
Child and adult psychiatrist Dr. Marissa Caudill talks about leaving a full-time role at Kaiser Permanente and building income outside the exam room through real estate and SuperDocTech, the company she founded to help physicians scale their expertise beyond one-on-one clinical work. The conversation covers burnout, financial diversification, and what it actually looks like to step away from W-2 medicine.
Paul Peebles has financed apartment deals through three major market cycles and structured more than $9 billion in transactions - enough to earn him the nickname "Godfather of Multifamily Lending." He breaks down why today's environment may be a buying opportunity, how to evaluate a syndication before investing, and the warning signs of a market bubble.
Teddy Mohlman went from culinary school and single-family flips to running a roughly 700-unit multifamily portfolio in Denver as founder of Higher Ground Investment Group. He and the hosts walk through what separates transactional income from real wealth-building, how to vet a market as landlord-friendly, and where tax strategies like cost segregation actually pay off.
Board-certified internal medicine physician and certified life coach Dr. Olga Deengar talks about her shift from full-time hospitalist work into coaching, and how she helps other physicians build financial freedom without necessarily leaving medicine entirely. She and the hosts unpack her DAMA coaching framework, using locum work and real estate to build multiple income streams, and the difference between financial freedom and full financial independence.
Javi Beza, co-founder of Higher Ground Investment Group, walks through the full lifecycle of a multifamily deal - from sourcing and underwriting through a roughly 90-day closing process, renovations, and eventual exit. Coming from a background running his family's construction equipment business, he makes the case that disciplined underwriting and active asset management matter more than any single number in a pitch deck.
Jeremy Dyer, VP of Capital Formation at Rise48 Equity with personal equity in more than 5,000 units, breaks down how passive syndications actually work for physicians who don't want to manage property themselves. The conversation covers real estate professional status and depreciation, how to read current market conditions amid higher rates, and why vetting the operator matters more than chasing an inflated projected return.
Daniel and Lila dig into where the multifamily market actually stands in 2026 — including an expected surge in commercial mortgage originations and early signs of a bottom in markets like Dallas and Phoenix. They also flag where they're staying cautious (office) and where they see early opportunity (medical office).
Daniel and Lila look back at 2025, including Lila's acquisition of an 82-unit Richardson, Texas property at a 34% discount and Daniel's capital raises in Dallas and Tallahassee. They talk through what discounted pricing and seller refinancing pressure meant for buyers that year, and what they're carrying into 2026.
Daniel and Lila tackle the reality of medical school debt — how it's grown, how it quietly shapes which specialty a resident chooses, and how real estate investing helped both hosts reduce the financial strain of their own loans.
A tour of six real estate investment approaches, from hands-on strategies like buy-and-hold rentals, flipping, short-term rentals, and land, to passive options like syndications and REITs. Daniel and Lila walk through the tradeoffs of each so a physician can match a strategy to how much time they actually have.
Daniel and Lila make the case for diversifying beyond a single W-2 income, citing physician pay that fell more than 20% against inflation between 2006 and 2017. They share how real estate helped them personally reduce tax liability and build more control over their careers.
A practical conversation on aligning with a spouse before diving into the financial specifics of an investing plan. Daniel and Lila share their own experience overcoming early resistance and introduce the "Five Whys" technique for uncovering what a couple is really working toward.
Aimed at residents living on $40,000–$50,000 salaries, this episode covers the four traps Daniel and Lila see most often - whole life insurance, fee-heavy advisors, high-interest debt, and lifestyle inflation - plus simple habits like automatic savings, maxing an employer 401(k) match, and opening a Roth IRA early.
The inaugural episode - Daniel and Lila introduce themselves and their own paths to financial independence, including how real estate let Daniel move from full-time surgery to part-time practice, and Lila's mission to help her own orthopedic-surgeon spouse retire early.
Hosted by
The investor/operator perspective, paired with the household-CFO lens that makes the plan work at home.
Dr. Daniel Shin
Brings the investor and operator perspective - how deals are sourced, underwritten, and reviewed before they reach an investor list.
Lila Kaplan
Brings the "family CFO" lens - how a passive-income plan actually has to work inside a real household budget.
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